doliver_phoenix: Great! juanlusz: fine nagora: somebody are talking, and I can hear nothing. erikacruvinel: Sorry. There was a power failure and my computer went off. nagora: never mind, erika. erikacruvinel: Nina, are you pressing "Talk"? nagora: should I press it? doliver_phoenix: When I was living on the Oregon coast, Erika, one of my jobs was to word-process manuscripts. erikacruvinel: Just if you have a mic and want to talk, then you have to keep holding it while you talk. barbaratous: I can't hear you Nina nagora: I am not speaking doliver_phoenix: One time there was a power outage and I lost almost 200 pages! barbaratous: yes erikacruvinel: Yes, I can hear you Nina. barbaratous: now I can hear you doliver_phoenix: Fortunately, my boss was in Europe at that time, so I worked very hard and re-keyboarded the entire manuscript. erikacruvinel: I guess nobody else is speaking doliver_phoenix: And I probably tripled my typing speed. erikacruvinel: Sorry Dennis! That is frustrating. nagora: tripled? doliver_phoenix: Well, maybe not tripled . . . But doubled, probably. nagora: Dennis, are you talking? erikacruvinel: Juan, I promise to write you an email with instructions on how to make links open in a new window, ok? juanlusz: ok, theres no hurry doliver_phoenix: Yes, it WAS frustrating, but everything turned out OK. nagora: I do too like to know how to do that, erika. doliver_phoenix: No, I'm not talking, Nina. nagora: ok, barbaratous: I'm opening my blog account at blogger doliver_phoenix: Is it the new version or the old version? (I couldn't find version numbers, only references to the old version and the new version.) erikacruvinel: Bárbara, let me know if you trouble with Blogger. The first thing to do is to create an account and blogger will guide you to write your frist post. This week you just need to add the url of your blog or blogs to our yahoo group files. Next week we will work on our posts and then on templates. barbaratous: ok barbaratous: thans Erika juanlusz: ok barbaratous: thanks nagora: I got it. nagora: I will do that also then. doliver_phoenix: I have several blogs using the old version of Blogger. The one I started today uses the new version. I suspect that I'll have to change the old versions to the new version eventually. nagora: I'd like to make a blog in collaboration with somebody. juanlusz: I think so doliver_phoenix: I'd be happy to collaborate, Nina. juanlusz: Denis, the new version opens links in different windows? nagora: Will you give the URL of new version, Dennis? erikacruvinel: Dennis is a great collaborator! nagora: WOW! I appreciate it very much, Dennis. doliver_phoenix: I don't know. I suspect you have to be sure that the html for links is coded for that. nagora: I know, I know, Erika. doliver_phoenix: I think it'll be WOW for both of us! juanlusz: ok nagora: :) nagora: That's fine. Lovlyu vas na slove, Dennis. doliver_phoenix: If you go to http://www.blogger.com, I think you can choose between the old and the new. doliver_phoenix: Forget the %2c . The URL ends with .com: doliver_phoenix: http://www.blogger.com erikacruvinel: My blogs are still running in the old version, only one that I have with Sharon Holdner has changed to the new version. doliver_phoenix: Most of mine are, too, Erikinha. juanlusz: brand new or did you move it to the new version, Erika? nagora: I used , seems to me, three versions already barbaratous: I created the blog with blogger erikacruvinel: I like Erikinha! Some friends call me like that! doliver_phoenix: Three versions? Wow! doliver_phoenix: Really? nagora: yes barbaratous: I don't know if it is the new version or the old one erikacruvinel: Sharo, who is my collaborator in this blog, moved it to the new version. doliver_phoenix: I look forward to seeing your blog, Bárbara. nagora: right different ones barbaratous: http://barbaratp.blogspot.com barbaratous: the post is very short erikacruvinel: Barbara you are fast! juanlusz: ok, Erika and were there problems when moving from the old to the new? nagora: One of my blogs is of this version, Barbara. barbaratous: is it the old version? nagora: Have you taken a look at Karim's blog? nagora: http://mydearstudents.blogspot.com/ erikacruvinel: Just minute, there is another participant who wants to join us. nagora: It's wonderful nagora: TAKE YOUR TIME , eRIKA doliver_phoenix: I think your new blog is the new version, Bárbara. I made a comment and it required me to post my google account username and password. I forgot my google username, so I couldn' doliver_phoenix: couldn't post the comment. barbaratous: ok erikacruvinel: Hi Veronica! nagora: Hu Blue Jay! erikacruvinel: Bárbara, all new blogs are being created in the new version. erikacruvinel: Dennis, you will soon need a google account! erikacruvinel: Veronica, were you able to create your account in Blogger? erikacruvinel: Bárbara, don't forget to add the links to your two new blogs to our yahoo groups, ok? doliver_phoenix: I have one, Erikinha; I just couldn't remember the username and password. doliver_phoenix: Hi, Blue Jay. barbaratous: yes, I added them one_blue_jay: Hi Erika--yes, I created an account and have created a blog--I was hoping to add my photo to my profile, but I'm getting hung up on that. nagora: It is Veronika, Dennis. erikacruvinel: I have all my passwords and Carla's written down on a pink notebook! juanlusz: ok, mates, its lovely being with you, but Im going to bed. Good work and good night, read you soon nagora: It was nice have you here, Juane erikacruvinel: Thanks for being with us Juan. I will send you and Nina instructions on opening links in a new window, doliver_phoenix: Hi, Veronika! nagora: Thank you, Erika, very much. barbaratous: bye Juan one_blue_jay: Hi Dennis--this is new tachnology for me. So sorry if I'm a bit slow on the uptake! doliver_phoenix: I just went to Bárbara's new blog and tried to add a comment, but things were crazy. erikacruvinel: Veronica, did you find a link on the right of your main page "Edit profile"? doliver_phoenix: No problem, Veronica! doliver_phoenix: Veronica or Veronika? doliver_phoenix: or Verónica or Verônica? one_blue_jay: Yes, I did that--I copied the URL for my photo and then I tried to save everything, and the message was that the computer was "fetching the photo"--but that went on for ever and ever, and never happened! one_blue_jay: It's definitely Veronica--English!! erikacruvinel: I guess you need to resize it, make it really small. doliver_phoenix: That'll certainly be easier for me to type, Veronica! one_blue_jay: It's pretty small to begin with, and I was able to "post" it to my blog. doliver_phoenix: I think I've visited your blog, Veronica, but I can't remember. What's the URL? erikacruvinel: Veronica, I wll try to change my photo in my profile, and I will pay attention to all steps to try to help you. nagora: Wouldn't you like to take a look at my picturetrail gallery? one_blue_jay: http://www.english140grammar.blogspot.com doliver_phoenix: Yes, Nina! nagora: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=nagora&x=13&y=14 one_blue_jay: It's http://www.english140grammar.blogspot.com doliver_phoenix: Veronica, I can't access it. It says I have to be invited. one_blue_jay: By the way, Dennis, I hear you have snow in Phoenix! nagora: same here one_blue_jay: How do I do that? erikacruvinel: Are you sure it has www in the url Veronica? one_blue_jay: Yes--that's what I have to use to access it. nagora: I guess, it isn't that URL, Veronica. doliver_phoenix: I loved the picture trail, Nina! I bookmarked it and will look at everything later. one_blue_jay: When I typed it in within the www, I got nowhere. nagora: yes, Dennis. doliver_phoenix: The www worked for me, but I was asked for a password to enter the site. nagora: It isd possible to add such albums to the blog doliver_phoenix: You could certainly add a link to them, Nina. erikacruvinel: Yes, nina. it is possible to add picture trail albums to Blogger. one_blue_jay: I made it (I thought) so that it would be accessible to the group--bloggingforbeginners. doliver_phoenix: That would be easier, I think, than adding complete albums. nagora: yes, for sure. doliver_phoenix: Hmmm. Then is bloggingforbeginners the password? nagora: Who can tell, if the blogs space is limited? erikacruvinel: No, Veronica will have to change the settings of the blog so that it allows anyone to read it. This is one of the features of the new version. one_blue_jay: That's what I think--although that is not my password--I use my gmail password barbaratous: I visited your page Nina, it's very nice barbaratous: nice pictures erikacruvinel: I am writing down all the problems you mention. We will have to write tutorials for that. one_blue_jay: I was concerned about opening this to the world--following the instructions that I read, it seemed that the blog could be restricted to the group. barbaratous: I can´t open Veronica's page doliver_phoenix: Veronica: Your new blog requires my Google password. I reset it a few minutes ago and now I can't remember it (because I didn't write it down). nagora: Thank you one_blue_jay: Gee-glad I'mnot the only one with "old-timers". doliver_phoenix: Definitely not! erikacruvinel: I know Veronica. You could restric your blog to your students for example, if all of them have a google username. If you access your account and look for settings, moderate comments, you can change that. one_blue_jay: So if I understand this correctly, would anyone with a gmail account be able to go into it? nagora: nope nagora: we have to be invited first. I tried with my Google account, but also failed, Veronica one_blue_jay: I just want to do this the easiest way possible--what do you suggest? erikacruvinel: No, if you restric your blog, you are the only one to allow users to see it or comment on it. doliver_phoenix: The easiest way is to make it public. nagora: agree with Erika. one_blue_jay: So if I go back in and change the settings, that should work? doliver_phoenix: It should. nagora: for sure. erikacruvinel: I always make my blogs public and adjust the settings so that anyone can comment. I like to activate the verification word to avoid spam. one_blue_jay: And any hints on getting my photo into the profile while I'm still online? erikacruvinel: It seems it is not loading your photo, right? one_blue_jay: That's right. nagora: Take a look at my blog if it works. http://tesol-ua.blogspot.com/ one_blue_jay: Yes, that's working--it looks very nice! nagora: I am glad it works. Thank you. doliver_phoenix: Nina, it's beautiful! Ochin, ochin kharosho! nagora: So leave you coments then, please. nagora: pravda? nagora: I was shy to show it anybody. barbaratous: it's a very nice blog Nina barbaratous: I really like the photos nagora: I did like to put o'clocks to the sidebar, but don't know how to do that. nagora: Thank you, Barbara, very much. erikacruvinel: I'm playing around with profile to try to find out why it didn't work for you Veronica. doliver_phoenix: I just tried to add comments, but something crazy started happening. I think it's because I was using Firefox. doliver_phoenix: I'll try it later with another browser. one_blue_jay: I've tried it with both IE and Mozilla. barbaratous: I'm trying to leave a comment nagora: doesn't it work? can't yiou leave a comment? doliver_phoenix: No. But hold on. I'm going to try it on another browser. erikacruvinel: Dennis, are you trying to write a comment o Nina or Veronica? barbaratous: the problem is that you need a google account erikacruvinel: Veronica, Blogger is asking for my photo URL. Were you able to upload the photo to your profile or did you include the url? barbaratous: and I don't have one one_blue_jay: I copied the URL and pasted it into the box--that seemed to be the requirement. erikacruvinel: What is the url to your photo? Do you have it there? one_blue_jay: :///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/veronica/My%20Documents/Personal/veronicab.jpg erikacruvinel: That is not a valid URL. Where did you copy it from? nagora: It is from her computer. doliver_phoenix: Nina: I can't make comments on your blog. I get a message that says "Comments on this blog are restricted to members." one_blue_jay: From the display on the page with the photo--sorry I'm not good with technical terms--but's it's the space where onenormally finds the URL. doliver_phoenix: I think Veronica's URL is from her personal computer. nagora: Oh, wait a min, I have to change settings then, perhaps. doliver_phoenix: Yes, I think so, Nina. one_blue_jay: OK--and so what does that mean? erikacruvinel: Veronica, the photo should already be online. It must start with http:// barbaratous: I have to leave now barbaratous: see you one_blue_jay: It is online, too--it's part of my web page--but I just copied the photo to my own computer. barbaratous: bye doliver_phoenix: Hasta la próxima vez, Bárbara! doliver_phoenix: Mucho gusto por la platicación! erikacruvinel: Bye Barbara. Thanks a lot for coming and email the group for any help. barbaratous: ok barbaratous: bye nagora: I have changed settings, try again. doliver_phoenix: OK. erikacruvinel: Veronica I have an idea. erikacruvinel: http://bloggingforbeginners.pbwiki.com/f/veronicab.jpg one_blue_jay: Please share! erikacruvinel: This is the url to your photo in B4B wiki. Try to copy this url to your blogger profile. erikacruvinel: And then save the profile. nagora: Oh, yes. I have forgot about it. I am putting all the pics to there. doliver_phoenix: Nina: This time it was successful! (But you have to approve the post before it will appear online.) nagora: really. How to make it seen at once? doliver_phoenix: I don't know. I only know that you have to approve it before it will appear online. nagora: I have changed the settings again. it should work right now. one_blue_jay: Thanks, Erika. I'll try that--if I still have problems, I'll get back to you tomorrow if I can. I'll also change that setting so that you can all see my first attempt!Thanks a lot for the help--I'm on a really steep learning curve here! Bye for now. erikacruvinel: Nina, you should change the settings of your blog. There is a box that you probably checked saying that "comments must be approved" nagora: by Veronica. sleep tight. erikacruvinel: Veronica, I really hope you are able to include your photo there with the url I sent you. Tell me if you have problems to change the settings. We will work on it step by step. nagora: I have already changed it. Take a look once more. one_blue_jay: Not sleep time yet--it's not even dinner time where I am! Thanks, again. nagora: It's midnight here doliver_phoenix: It works now, Nina. erikacruvinel: 9:30 pm here doliver_phoenix: My silly little comment is now listed. nagora: WOW! It's i:30 a.m. here doliver_phoenix: 4:30 PM here. one_blue_jay: it's only 4:30 pm here! doliver_phoenix: Go to bed, Nina! You need to sleep! nagora: I am also on my medical leave, Dennis. doliver_phoenix: Really? nagora: :) doliver_phoenix: :d erikacruvinel: Nina, I will try to write comments in your blogs, blogger is really slow for me today. doliver_phoenix: It's been slow at times for me, too, Erikinha. nagora: It's sciatica after sitting before pc so ling. doliver_phoenix: Oh, no! erikacruvinel: really Nina? nagora: so long. nagora: OK Erika, no rush. doliver_phoenix: I need to use the bathroom, so why don't we stop for now? erikacruvinel: LOL doliver_phoenix: :)) erikacruvinel: Thank you so much for this chat! nagora: :-h erikacruvinel: :-h doliver_phoenix: As Dafne would say, he he he! nagora: =P~ erikacruvinel: You are very special friends! doliver_phoenix: I feel exactly the same about both of you! nagora: Thank you Erika and all for the time. doliver_phoenix: Yes, the same from me! nagora: I think the same also. doliver_phoenix: On that cheery note, I'm going to sign off. erikacruvinel: :) Good night Nina, and have a nice evening Dennis! nagora: see you again soon. doliver_phoenix: Take care! erikacruvinel: Bye! doliver_phoenix: Thanks, Erika. nagora: Have a nice day. I go to bed. doliver_phoenix: Poká, Nina/ nagora: poka-poka nagora: Dennis, don't forget about collaborative blog. erikacruvinel: poka-poka. Count on me too Nina! doliver_phoenix: No, I won't forget! doliver_phoenix: Oh, great! What a team we'll be! doliver_phoenix: =d> doliver_phoenix: And now I'm really leaving! doliver_phoenix: Poof! Dennis vanishes into the cybersphere!